Why a whole generation of pitchers remains underrepresented in the Hall of Fame; who deserves to get the call? (2024)

Five Hall of Fame voting cycles ago, I ran through how much an entire generation of starting pitchers are getting jobbed in the vote and very little has changed. Mike Mussina has gotten in, though, which means we can take a look at the somewhat updated outlook. Here are the number of Hall of Fame starting pitchers from selected "generations," based upon the year in which the pitcher debuted in the majors:

  • 1871-91: 13
  • 1897-16: 21
  • 1918-39: 11
  • 1923-39: 11
  • 1950-67: 15
  • 1986-2004: 7

It's an issue I bring up during every single Hall of Fame voting cycle because it's a shame to see the Hall getting "watered down."Here's another point of contention: It's actually gotten tougher to get into the Hall of Fame. Notably, thanks in part to the ridiculous offensive numbers we saw in the so-called "Steroid Era," starting pitchers have been getting the shaft.

At some point in the near future, there needs to be a shift in the perspective of voters or it's only going to get worse. Take the way the game is played nowadays with the starting pitcher throwing fewer and fewer innings. Sure, the strikeout totals are higher than ever on a rate basis, but with fewer innings and more specialization, the formerly-almighty win takes on much less significance (many, such as myself, would call this a victory anyway, because the pitcher win is an incredibly dumb stat when used as a primary indicator). For example, Jacob deGrom has 70 career wins. The Hall of Fame starter with the lowest number of career wins is Candy Cummings with 145. Dizzy Dean has 150. Addie Joss 160 and then Sandy Koufax 165. I'm only prepared to say Koufax of that group is going to have a better Hall of Fame case than deGrom, once the dust has settled, but deGrom isn't catching any of them in wins.

If we want the example of a retired pitcher who got jobbed, how about Johan Santana? The two-time Cy Young winner was broadly considered either the best pitcher in baseball or one of the top two or three for five seasons. He won three ERA titles. He led the league in strikeouts three times and WHIP four times. In those five glorious seasons, Santana was 86-39 with a 2.82 ERA (157 ERA+), 1.02 WHIP and averaged 238 strikeouts against 52 walks in 229 innings per season. ERA+ adjusts for ballpark and era and Santana's 136 career mark is tied for 21st all-time with Christy Mathewson and Bruce Sutter. He's ahead of Pete Alexander, Randy Johnson, Whitey Ford, Greg Maddux, Sandy Koufax and a litany of other all-time greats. Santana got 2.4 percent of the vote in 2018 in his only try on the ballot.

Why? Well, Santana only played 12 years. Of course, Koufax only played 12 years. Santana only won 139 games in an era when starters take the ball far fewer times per season and don't stay in the game nearly as long. It cost him.

I'm of the mind that we judge players for the Hall of Fame against their peers just as much as we're judging against history. When we say Babe Ruth is arguably the greatest player of all time, it isn't surmising that we could grab him in a time machine and throw him into today's game. He'd be, um, let's just say "fighting a tough battle," for myriad reasons -- but he's a titan of the game because of how much better he was than his peers.

As such, we shouldn't lament the role of the starting pitcher and punish modern pitchers for not racking up 300-plus innings per season. They are playing a different game than Walter Johnson was. We should be judging the pitchers against their peers. So let's do that with the current starting pitchers on the Hall ballot and I'll offer a quick verdict.

Roger Clemens

Not much more really needs to be said on Rocket. His statistical line reads as possibly the single greatest pitcher in baseball history. There isn't much arguing to be done. Either the PED ties disqualify him for you or you think he should be in.

Verdict: Yes, my rule is if a player was suspended under MLB's Joint Drug Agreement he's a no, but anyone who wasn't is judged solely on how they played the game.

Curt Schilling

Schilling reached 70 percent of the vote last season and there's a reasonable chance he hits the needed 75 percent this time around to get in. His pitching resume says he should. He went 216-146 with a 3.46 ERA (127 ERA+), 1.14 WHIP and topped 3,000 K (3,116). He led the league in wins twice, complete games four times, innings twice, strikeouts twice, WHIP twice and strikeout-to-walk rate five times. He never won a Cy Young, but finished second three times. He sits 26th in career WAR for pitchers, trailing only Hall of Famers and Clemens. There are 65 Hall of Fame starting pitchers, so he's above average. He's above the standard in JAWS, too, which has him ahead of Mike Mussina, Tom Glavine, Nolan Ryan, Justin Verlander, Clayton Kershaw, Jim Palmer, Bob Feller and Roy Halladay, among others.

None of this includes postseason stats, where Schilling was one of the best ever. In 19 starts, he was 11-2 with a 2.23 ERA, 0.97 WHIP and 120 strikeouts against 25 strikeouts in 133 1/3 innings. This includes four complete games, two shutouts, an NLCS MVP and World Series MVP. Let's not leave out the three rings.

Much discussion on Schilling these days centers around his personality and I have no issue with that. I'll simply say that his pitching resume vs. his 38.8 percent of the vote in 2013 -- before he'd really made many high-profile waves -- never, ever made any kind of sense. That's where there's a separation in judging starting pitchers for the Hall of Fame these days.

Verdict: Yes, judging the on-field play only.

Andy Pettitte

Here's an interesting case, because Pettitte is much closer to having an old-school case than new-school. He has 256 career wins and over 3,000 innings. He topped 200 innings 10 times. He was in the rotation for five World Series championship teams. He went 19-11 in the postseason. He won an ALCS MVP. I kind of feel like we could stop right here, throw this same resume in the 1940s-50s and he'd be in the Hall of Fame.

Was he dominant, though? Pettitte only went to three All-Star games in 18 seasons. He did finish second in Cy Young voting once and got votes four other times, but he was mostly a compiler. Oh, and in an era with strikeouts increasing, he didn't do that much. He ended with 2,448 in 3,316 innings, only finishing in the top 10 of his league four times (and never in the top five).

He sits 91st in JAWS and 63rd in WAR, which makes sense, as JAWS is a hybrid that figures in a player's peak. Pettitte was a long-time compiler who never had a dominant peak. He had a great career, just not a Hall of Fame one.

Verdict: No, though he's close as a compiler.

Tim Hudson

It probably shouldn't happen, but we're all human and it happens: One moment I'll never forget was being in the Giants clubhouse after they won the 2014 World Series in Kansas City. Seeing Tim Hudson win his first ring -- at age 38 in his 16th MLB season after being bounced from the playoffs six previous times -- and his reactions throughout the night was pretty fun.

He won 222 games (the .625 winning percentage is 66th in MLB history) and pitched to a 3.49 ERA (120 ERA+) in his 17 seasons. He was a four-time All-Star and got Cy Young votes four times, topping out at a runner-up finish in 2000. He had eight 200-inning seasons and seven times finished in the top 10 in his league in pitcher WAR. The three most statistical similar pitchers to him on baseball-reference.com are Kevin Brown, Bob Welch and Orel Hershiser.

Verdict: Congrats on a very long and great career, but no.

Mark Buehrle

Buehrle debuted in 2000 to pitch 51 1/3 innings, mostly in relief. He'd then string together 14 consecutive years of 200-plus innings before just missing with 198 2/3 in his final season. He was a five-time All-Star and four-time Gold Glover (and, frankly, probably should have won more of those; he was magnificent). He won 214 games with 33 complete games and 10 shutouts, including his two no-hitters (one was perfect). He won a World Series ring with the 2005 White Sox, a team wholly underappreciated for what they did. He had an incredibly admirable career.

Verdict: Congrats on a very long and great career, but no.

Barry Zito

The 2002 Cy Young winner, Zito was the proprietor of an aesthetically-gorgeous, slow, old-school curve. The three-time All-Star racked up at least 213 innings his six full seasons with the A's before hopping across the Bay where he was never quite the same (though advanced metrics showed it was pretty predictable). Still, he outpitched Justin Verlander in Game 1 of the 2012 World Series and won a ring.

Verdict: I really liked that curve.

Dan Haren

A three-time All-Star -- he started the game once -- who got Cy Young votes twice, Haren won 153 games in his 13-year career. He once had a string of seven straight 200-inning seasons. He led the majors in WHIP in 2009 and twice finished in the top 10 in pitcher WAR.

Verdict: His twitter handle is "ithrow88," which is outstanding, self-deprecating humor.

A.J. Burnett

Burnett won 164 games in his 17-year career. He led the league in strikeouts in 2008 for the Blue Jays and then was an important part of the 2009 Yankees World Series title. Fun tidbit: He made one All-Star team and it was in his final season, at age 38.

Verdict: HE THREW A NO-HITTER WITH NINE WALKS, A HIT BATSMAN, A WILD PITCH AND THREE STOLEN BASES ALLOWED!

I complained and I'd only add two guys? What gives? Well, first off, I'd go back and add Johan Santana and probably Kevin Brown. CC Sabathia (debuted in 2001) will also be a future consideration, as will Zack Greinke (2004). Just these four with Clemens and Schilling would make things a lot more balanced for this generation. Next generation will get the likes of Verlander, Max Scherzer and Clayton Kershaw just off the top, too. Let's just all stop focusing so much on individual "wins" in a team sport, please?

Why a whole generation of pitchers remains underrepresented in the Hall of Fame; who deserves to get the call? (2024)

FAQs

How many pitchers are in the Hall of Fame? ›

By position, there are: 84 pitchers, 20 catchers, 27 first basem*n, 20 second basem*n, 19 third basem*n, 26 shortstops, 23 left fielders, 24 center fielders, 27 right fielders, 3 designated hitters, 23 managers, 10 umpires and 40 executives/pioneers.

What percentage of major league baseball players make it to the Hall of Fame? ›

If you applied this % to the total players in the hall, 4 players would be in the Super Hall of Fame.

Who are the best pitchers not in the Hall of Fame? ›

Interpreted as:
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Roger Clemens35470
Tommy John28890
Tony Mullane28485
Jamie Moyer26997
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Why are there so many pitchers in baseball? ›

Because each pitcher throws such a small fraction of his team's innings, it's necessary for each team to have a pitching staff consisting of as many as 12 or 13 pitchers. Each pitcher is assigned a role, generally either as a starting pitcher or as a relief pitcher (see below).

Are there any 300 win pitchers not in the Hall of Fame? ›

Roger Clemens is the only pitcher with 300 wins or more not elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame.

Will Alex Rodriguez ever be in the Hall of Fame? ›

Despite being one of the greatest sluggers in MLB history, Alex Rodriguez is sadly one of the infamous names that may never be inducted into the MLB Hall of Fame. The BBWA takes this honor very seriously, they have already denied it to massive names such as Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, and Mark McGwire.

Has anyone been unanimously voted into the Baseball Hall of Fame? ›

Former New York Yankees closer Mariano Rivera is the one and only unanimous Hall of Famer.

Who is the youngest baseball player to go to the Hall of Fame? ›

Sandy Koufax holds the distinction of being the youngest player elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame, achieving this honor at the age of 36 in 1972.

Why is it so hard to get into the Baseball Hall of Fame? ›

The method for voting in most of the players—devised by the Hall of Fame board decades ago and implemented by select members of the Baseball Writers' Association of America—results in the induction of about 1% of all who have participated in Major League Baseball in any eligible area.

Is anyone with 3,000 hits not in the Hall of Fame? ›

Of the 30 players in the 3,000-hit club who have reached Hall of Fame eligibility, 27 have been voted in. The three who have not – Pete Rose, Rafael Palmeiro and Alex Rodriguez – have been tied to either gambling or steroid controversies.

Is Don Mattingly still eligible for the Hall of Fame? ›

Mattingly is now eligible to be inducted into the Hall of Fame via the Contemporary Baseball Era Players Committee. He was shortlisted for the 2018, 2020, and 2022 ballots, but did not receive enough votes for induction. Mattingly has been honored by two minor-league halls of fame.

Who has the worst batting average in the Hall of Fame? ›

Schalk's career batting average of . 253 is the lowest of any position player in the Hall of Fame. That he was selected by the Veterans Committee for enshrinement in 1955 is largely a tribute to his outstanding defensive skills and to the fact that he played to win the infamous 1919 World Series for the White Sox.

How many times can a pitcher pitch in baseball? ›

If a pitcher reaches the 110 pitch limit while facing a batter, the pitcher may continue to pitch until one of the following occurs.

Why do pitchers play so little? ›

The pitcher wants to keep the pitch count low because of his stamina. Often a starting pitcher will be removed from the game after 100 pitches, regardless of the actual number of innings pitched, as it is reckoned to be the maximum optimal pitch count for a starting pitcher.

Why do pitchers not bat? ›

Debate. There has been ongoing debate on the merits of the designated hitter rule. As noted before, the original rationale was to replace pitchers in the batting order because they were generally considered weak hitters, and usually batted ninth or pinch-hit for late in games when their team was trailing.

Who is the only Hall of Fame pitcher to never give up a Grand Slam? ›

Jim Palmer

How many perfect game pitchers are in the Hall of Fame? ›

Pitchers. During baseball's modern era, 22 pitchers have thrown perfect games. Most were accomplished major leaguers. Seven have been inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame: Cy Young, Addie Joss, Jim Bunning, Sandy Koufax, Catfish Hunter, Randy Johnson, and Roy Halladay.

How many black pitchers are in the Hall of Fame? ›

There are 10 black pitchers who have been inducted into Baseball's Hall of Fame, but eight of those are from the Negro Leagues. The other two are Gibson, inducted in 1981, and Canadian native Ferguson Jenkins 10 years later.

Is Justin Verlander a Hall of Famer? ›

Of them, seven are in the Hall, and three more (Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander) will eventually be. The only three-or-more-time winner who isn't in, Roger Clemens, is obviously qualified yet wasn't inducted due to his connections to PED usage.

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